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MACR PILOT: Capt  John S.  Giles  - O-753999

MACR: 08812 FICHE : 03235

ORGANIZATION

LOCATION: AAF Station #139 COMMAND: VIII AF GROUP: 100th Bomb Gp (H) AAF
SQUADRON: 350th BS DETACHMENT:  
     

DETAIL

DEPARTURE:AAF Station #139 INITIAL COURSE: SE  
INTENDED DESTINATION: Ruhland    
MISSION TYPE:Operational    

WEATHER & VISIBILITY AT TIME OF LAST REPORT

CONDITION: 7 - 10/10 Undercast    

GIVE

DATE: 1944-09-11 TIME: 12:05 LOCATION: 5035N 1310E

SPECIFY:

Last Sighted

CONFIRMED OR BELIEVED REASON FOR LOSS

LOSS DUE TO : Enemy aircraft

OTHER REASON FOR LOSS:

AIRCRAFT: 43-37863

TYPE: B-17 SERIES: G  
     
     

ENGINES:

MODEL: R-1820-97    
A: SW-017082
B: SW-019820
C: O-020253
D: SW-019469
   

INSTALLED WEAPONS:

A: 1217408
B: 1217303
C: 1217449
D: 1217174
E: 1215793
F: 1215622
G: 1215804
H: 1217055
I: 1215601
J: 1217421
K: 1217355
L: 1215769

PERSONS BELOW ARE LISTED AS:

CASUALTY TYPE: Battle casualty  
NUMBER OF PERSONS ON BOARD:    
CREW: 9 PASS: 0 TOTAL: 9

PERSONNEL:

POSITION NAME RANK SERIAL
P1
P2 John S.  Giles Capt O-753999
CP John M. Shelly 1Lt O-747505
NAV (N) Kenneth S. Welty 1Lt O-567054
BOM (B) Harkie H. Skelton 1Lt O-664833
RAD Elzo Bevan TSgt 34700509
ENG Andrew G. Leuthold TSgt 37240307
BAL Norbert O. DePauw SSgt 37118775
WG (W) Albert S. Pela SSgt 18067003
WG (W)
TG (T) Robert S. Rowley SSgt 31140110

PERSONS WHO ARE BELIEVED TO HAVE LAST KNOWLEDGE OF AIRCRAFT

W.C. ivosevic 2Lt O-815525
Last sighted
J.H. McLaughlin 2Lt O-816523
Last sighted    
T.H. Kemp 1Lt O-812277

PERSONNEL WHO ARE BELIEVED TO HAVE SURVIVED

REASON: Any other reason OTHER: A/C entered undercast under control  

EYEWITNESS DESCRIPTIONS OF CRASH

Report:
"The group in which A/C 863 was flying was attacked by 50 to 70 enemy aircraft. The attack caused at least three of our aircraft to explode and most of the others appeared to be damaged, some were attacked again as stragglers. In a few minutes all but one disappeared beneath the undercast. Since none of them returned no account of the loss of specific aircraft is available. About half of them appeared to be under control as they disappeared into the undercast. Two chutes were seen before the aircraft disappeared, but from which one they came is undetermined,"
   
   
Second Witness: No Data  
Report:

DESCRIPTION OF SEARCH EFFORT

DETAIL:No search made.

PREPARING OFFICER

PREPARED BY: WALTER G. BURKE 1st Lt. Air Corps Assistant Adjutant

DATE PREPARED: 1944-09-13

TRANSCRIBER NOTES


REPORT:

From Lt. Cordy A. Ramer, (mpf 2001)

Mission Memories: "On our first or second mission we were attacked by fighter planes with Yellow Spinners. We found out later that these were the Abbyville Kids. Missions to BERLIN were the most harrowing. We called it "20 Minutes of Hell". The flak was so thick it seemed you could walk on it. Dropping supplies to the French underground were also interesting. On one trip I was flying with Eden Jones and were flying wing to John Giles. When Giles dumped his load a parachute opened early and was hung up in the bomb bay. We thought the plane was going down but the bombardier cut the chute loose and all was well. July 29, 1944, on Merseburg, my career as a Bombardier ended. I had visions of completing my missions and going home but all that had to wait until the War was over. "

Base Memories: "I remember Sterling P. (Pete) Lambert who was a co-pilot on the Giles crew. Pete was anxious for a crew of his own so he and the crew chief and I would practice take off and landings day after day. we got in plenty of extra flying time. I very well remember the 3:30AM briefings. I remember the briefing officer when he would pull the curtain to reveal the red ribbon stretched from Thorpe Abbotts to the target. I don't remember his name but we owe a lot to the soldier who got us out of the sack and to briefings before each mission. The he got us to the plane for the take off and was there waiting when we landed after the mission. This guy and his counterparts deserve a lot of credit. "

On 11/9/44, Lts J. M. Shelly, K. S. Welty & H. H. Skelton had replaced Lambert, Gunter & Ramer. The three became POWs. On 11/8/44, Jack Conger was flying with the crew of A. D. Elbel