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MACR PILOT: 2Lt  Raymond J.  Gormley  - O-797516

MACR: 00949 FICHE : 00314

ORGANIZATION

LOCATION: AAF Station #139 COMMAND: VIII AF GROUP: 100th Bomb Gp (H) AAF
SQUADRON: 351st BS DETACHMENT:  
     

DETAIL

DEPARTURE:AAF Station #139 INITIAL COURSE: ENE  
INTENDED DESTINATION: Bremen    
MISSION TYPE:Operational    

WEATHER & VISIBILITY AT TIME OF LAST REPORT

CONDITION: CAVU    

GIVE

DATE: 1943-10-08 TIME: 15:00 LOCATION: 20 miles SE of Emden

SPECIFY:

Last Sighted

CONFIRMED OR BELIEVED REASON FOR LOSS

LOSS DUE TO : Enemy aircraft

OTHER REASON FOR LOSS:

AIRCRAFT: 42-3386

TYPE: B-17 SERIES: F  
     
     

ENGINES:

MODEL: R-1820-97    
A: 43-59911
B: 43-59919
C: 43-59937
D: 43-59974
   

INSTALLED WEAPONS:

A: 470396
B: 120884
C: 121164
D: 394116
E: 393709
F: 393823
G: 394295
H: 393878
I: 394019
J: 393872
K: 396372
L: 394007

PERSONS BELOW ARE LISTED AS:

CASUALTY TYPE: Battle casualty  
NUMBER OF PERSONS ON BOARD:    
CREW: 10 PASS: 0 TOTAL: 10

PERSONNEL:

POSITION NAME RANK SERIAL
P1
P2 Raymond J.  Gormley 2Lt O-797516
CP Edward J. Fox 2Lt O-801555
NAV (N) Peter T. Motta 2Lt O-749446
BOM (B) William J.q Heath 2Lt O-676220
RAD Dale A. Von Seggern TSgt 35374810
ENG Jay B. McPhee TSgt 36122736
BAL Donald R. Hilton SSgt 37233560
WG (W) Charles Presley SSgt 14046069
WG (W) William A. Avery SSgt 16087699
TG (T) Clay E. Rife SSgt 37233529

PERSONS WHO ARE BELIEVED TO HAVE LAST KNOWLEDGE OF AIRCRAFT

Walter L. Moreno 1Lt O-733699
Last sighted
Howard E. Keel 2Lt O-739964
Last sighted    
John T. Griffen 2Lt O-798489
Last sighted

PERSONNEL WHO ARE BELIEVED TO HAVE SURVIVED

REASON: Unknown OTHER:  

EYEWITNESS DESCRIPTIONS OF CRASH

Report:
   
   
Second Witness: No Data  
Report:

DESCRIPTION OF SEARCH EFFORT

DETAIL:No search made.

PREPARING OFFICER

PREPARED BY: CLAUDE L. HOSFORD 1st Lt Air Corps Personnel Officer

DATE PREPARED: 1943-10-12

TRANSCRIBER NOTES


REPORT:

 Top Turret gunner Sgt John Ehlen on Piccadilly Lily reported, " the FW 190 crashed into the his left wing root. Gormley had been flying a wing position and the whole formation was in a flat turn. The FW 190 passed over our wing and crashed into the B-17 (Marie Helena) on the turn". Walter "Chief" Moreno flying nearby in Messie Bessie noted " Red nose FW 190 crashed into ship #386 and both went down in flames 20 miles SE of Emden" The shattered remains of Marie Helena crashed near Bellingwalde, Friesland. "

"Plane was rammed by A FW 190 flew by Oblt Erich Hondt, both aircraft went down and disintegrated in mid-air 
the wreckage falling over a wide area near Bellingwolde, 28 miles east of Groningen holland at 15.30 hrs 
most body's were burnt to 3 degree and Lt Gormley and Llt fox, t/sgt Von Seggern and t/sgt Mc Phee and s/sgt Presley were burried in the protestant churchyard Bellingwolde 
Lt Motta, Lt Heath , s/sgt Hilton, s/sgt Avery and s/sgt Rife were burried on 18 oktober 1943 in the nearby Lutheran cemetery at Leer Germany , s/sgt Presleý's body was found a week later in canal" 

"From another dutch book about the 8th air force there is the story of the german pilot Oblt Hondt 
where he says that he was shot down by the B-17 and he won't let him go that’s why he rammed him 
he survived because his FW exploded and he was thrown from the plane but was serious wounded. Iin the book is also some photo's of the german pilot and there is a drawing of the FW just before he rammed the B-17"
_________________
ron 
eindhoven 
the netherlands 
http://www.mary-ruth.ontheweb.nl/
    
Michael, 

Hondt flew a Focke Wulf 190A-5/U12 Werknummer (Serialn.) 410266.Underside from the engine cover was red cover from the propeller also.There were red strips from the top of the engine cover to the back of the wings. Tail was white.I have some photos from the plane but don’t know how to add it to the post. 
Jabo