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MACR PILOT: 2Lt  Robert P.  Kramer  - O-798524

MACR: 01024 FICHE : 00339

ORGANIZATION

LOCATION: AAF Station #139 COMMAND: VIII AF GROUP: 100th Bomb Gp (H) AAF
SQUADRON: 350th BS DETACHMENT:  
     

DETAIL

DEPARTURE:AAF Station #139 INITIAL COURSE: E  
INTENDED DESTINATION: Munster    
MISSION TYPE:Operational    

WEATHER & VISIBILITY AT TIME OF LAST REPORT

CONDITION: Clear with ground haze    

GIVE

DATE: 1943-10-10 TIME: 15:00 LOCATION: Munster, Germany (Time 1500 - 1530)

SPECIFY:

Information not available

CONFIRMED OR BELIEVED REASON FOR LOSS

LOSS DUE TO : Other circumstances

OTHER REASON FOR LOSS:

Unknown

AIRCRAFT: 42-3433

TYPE: B-17 SERIES: F  
     
     

ENGINES:

MODEL: R-1820-97    
A: 43-6732
B: 43-6756
C: 43-6758
D: 43-6765
   

INSTALLED WEAPONS:

A: 394194
B: 395595
C: 473415
D: 395499
E: 395561
F: 398549
G: 398665
H: 907034
I: 908232
J: 908067
K: 396670
L: 393892

PERSONS BELOW ARE LISTED AS:

CASUALTY TYPE: Battle casualty  
NUMBER OF PERSONS ON BOARD:    
CREW: 10 PASS: 0 TOTAL: 10

PERSONNEL:

POSITION NAME RANK SERIAL
P1
P2 Robert P.  Kramer 2Lt O-798524
CP Edward F. Connelly 2Lt O-681959
NAV (N) Hugh S. Geiger 2Lt O-747124
BOM (B) Thomas B. Casey 2Lt O-678519
RAD James A. Watkins TSgt 15330820
ENG Deane O. Todd TSgt 13001989
BAL Donald M. Glaze SSgt 35355964
WG (W) George A. White SSgt 13131254
WG (W) Fred B. Moore SSgt 6247654?
TG (T) Harvey F. James SSgt 32478195

PERSONS WHO ARE BELIEVED TO HAVE LAST KNOWLEDGE OF AIRCRAFT

None
   

PERSONNEL WHO ARE BELIEVED TO HAVE SURVIVED

REASON: Original MACR field blank OTHER:  

EYEWITNESS DESCRIPTIONS OF CRASH

Report:
Circumstances of loss of this A/C are unknown.
   
   
Second Witness: No Data  
Report:

DESCRIPTION OF SEARCH EFFORT

DETAIL:No search made.

PREPARING OFFICER

PREPARED BY: CLAUDE L. HOSFORD 1st Lt Air Corps Personnel Officer

DATE PREPARED: 1943-10-21

TRANSCRIBER NOTES


REPORT:

From statements in the MACR file it would appear three men were killed were unable to bail out prior to the ship entering a spin and finally exploding. Gieger (Lt Hugh E. Gieger) said he personally examined the dog tags and they had the appearance of being burned. Kramer (Lt Robert P. Kramer) was at the nose exit ready to jump, when he turned back for one last verification all crew members had bailed out. This gallant action cost the popular Bob Kramer his life.