COMMENTS & NOTES
2nd Lt John S.Giles,Jr. P POW 11/9/44 RUHLAND sn# 0753999 Taps 1980
2nd Lt Sterling P.Lambert CP CPT 7/8/44 BEAUTOR
2nd Lt Charles E.Gunter,Jr. NAV CPT 25/12/44 KAISERLAUTERN (350th Squadron Navigator)
2nd Lt Cordy A.Ramer,Jr. BOM POW 29/7/44 MERSEBURG (with crew of E.C.Jones) sn# 0-545535
S/Sgt Elzo Bevan ROG POW 11/9/44 RUHLAND
S/Sgt Andrew G Leuthold TTE POW 11/9/44 RUHLAND A/C ,#43 37863
S/Sgt Norbert O. DePauw BTG POW 11/9/44 RUHLAND MACR #8812,Microfiche #3235
Sgt Albert S. Pela WG POW 11/9/44 RUHLAND
Sgt Jack E.Conger WG NOC
Sgt Robert B.Rowley TG POW 11/9/44 RUHLAND
350th Sqdn. Crew,as above,joined the 100th Group on 7/4/44. See "CONTRAILLS" p.199 for photo
Lt Ramer was in Stalag Luft I along with his old pilot Lt John Giles Jr. Crew flew in "HARD LUCK" and "FLETCHERS CASTORIA" and "LEADING LADY".
Mission Memories: "On our first or second mission we were attacked by fighter planes with Yellow Spinners. We found out later that these were the Abbyville Kids. Missions to BERLIN were the most harrowing. We called it "20 Minutes of Hell". The flak was so thick it seemed you could walk on it. Dropping supplies to the French underground were also interesting. On one trip I was flying with Eden Jones and were were flying wing to John Giles. When Giles dumped his load a parachute opened early and was hung up in the bomb bay. We thought the plane was going down but the bombardier cut the chute loose and all was well. July 29, 1944, on Merseburg, my career as a Bombardier ended. I had visions of completing my missions and going home but all that had to wait until the War was over."
Base Memories: "I remember Sterling P. (Pete) Lambert who was a co-pilot on the Giles crew. Pete was anxious for a crew of his own so he and the crew chief and I would practice take off and landings day after day. We got in plenty of extra flying time. I very well remember the 3:30AM briefings. I remember the briefing officer when he would pull the curtain to reveal the red ribbon stretched from Thorpe Abbotts to the target. I don't remember his name but we owe a lot to the soldier who got us out of the sack and to briefings before each mission. The he got us to the plane for the take off and was there waiting when we landed after the mission. This guy and his counterparts deserve a lot of credit."
Lt Cordy A. Ramer Jr (mpf 2001)
On 11/9/44, RUHLAND MISSION: Lts J.M.Shelly, K.S.Welty & H.H.Skelton had replaced Lambert, Gunter & Ramer. The three became
POWs. On 11/8/44,Jack Conger was flying with the crew of A.D.Elbel
1st Lt John S. Giles, Jr., P SN# 0753999
2nd Lt Harris H. Skelton, BOM SN# 0664833
1st Lt Charlie E. Gunter, Jr. NAV SN# 0699160
T Sgt Andrew G. Leuthold TTE SN# 37240307
S Sgt Jack E. Conger WG SN# 19151118
S Sgt Robert B. Rowley TG SN# 31140110
S Sgt Norbert O. Depauw BTG SN# 37118775
T Sgt Elzo Bevan ROG SN# 34700509
S Sgt Albert S. Pela WG SN# 18067003
T/Sgt Floyd O. Douglas TOGG (listed on this Crew on July 2, 1944) sn#32383566
Missions of Lt Cordy A. Ramer, Jr with the Giles Crew…mpf
1 19/4/44 LIPPSTADT
2. 20/4/44 MARQUENVILLE
3. 22/4/44 HAMM
4. 25/4/44 DIJON
5. 26/4/44 BRUNSWICK
6. 1/5/44 SAARGUEMINES
7. 7/5/44 BERLIN
8. 8/5/44 BERLIN
9. 9/5/44 LAON
10. 10/5/44 FALLERSLEBEN-RECALL
Gordy A. Ramer, Jr. flew 10 missions with the above crew before moving to the E.C. Jones crew where flew 19 additional missions.
1st Lt Eden C. Jones P KIA 29 Jul 44 Merseburg
2nd Lt Robert E.Ries CP KIA 29 Jul 44 Merseburg
2nd Lt Albert B.Fincher,Jr. NAV POW 29 Jul 44 Merseburg
1st Lt Cordy A.Ramer,Jr. BOM POW 29 Jul 44 Merseburg
T/Sgt Leo J.Griffin ROG KIA 29 Jul 44 Merseburg
T/Sgt James Eadie TTE KIA 29 Jul 44 Merseburg
S/Sgt Harold J.Prince BTG KIA 29 Jul 44 Merseburg
S/Sgt Frank J. Moran,Jr. WG POW/WIA 29 Jul 44 Merseburg
S/Sgt Jerry R.Cassell TG POW 29 Jul 44 Merseburg
350th Sqdn .Above crew as it appears on MACR#7811. Cordy Ramer was on the crew of J.S.Giles when it joined the 100th BG on 7/4/44. On 8/7/44 Sgts Fugene Wells & Richard D.Hawkins were on this crew as gunners. Wells CPT on 12/12/44 & Hawkins KIA on 28/7/44 with crew of W..G. Stansbury Moran says crew arrived at Thorpe Abbotts 15 May 1944 as above. Letter from Cassell 19/11/90 says Moran was TTE not WG. Cassell letter of 21/6/91 says Cordy Ramer replaced the original BOM,Ferrell O.Mason. Also that Eugene R.Wells was on crew when it came to the 100th but removed to reduce crew to nine men. Wells appears on the Kassebaum crew as a WG.
MACR #7811,Microfiche #2858 A/C #42-31903
From MACR: "No definite information concerning the loss of this A/C is available. The leader of the squadron was forced to jettison his bombs short of the target because of flak damage. The formation broke up and all the aircraft except the leader were lost to E/A."
German reports indicate this A/C was shot down at 1055 hours near Wuelfingerode and both Ries and Prince were interred in Graves #. 1 & #2. It contunues that two (2) unknown dead were buried in graves #3 & #4. These presumably were, Leo J. Griffin and James Eadie. Evidently Lt Jones died sometime later from his wounds..
Lt. Gunter Note: from Harry Crosby in 1993
Charlie Gunter came to the 100th on the John S. Giles crew. When he left the crew to become Squadron Navigator, they went down of the bad Ruhland mission. (11 Sep 1944) For all these years, he was out of touch-- and looking for us. It was only when he heard about my book through a University of Texas publication that he wrote me, learned of our Association, and heard for the first time that Giles, and their gunner, Albert Pela had become POW's. Now Charlie is back in touch and, and you will meet him in Little Rock.
When Charlie left the 100th after his tour, for a year he was an instructor and the Base Intelligence Officer at Selman Navigation School. He then went to the Philippines and Japan for a year, serving with G-1 Far East Headquarters. Deciding not to remain in the Air Force, he returned to Washington, D.C., and graduated from Benjamin Franklin University in 1950 with an accounting degree.
He became a Special Agent for the FBI. He served in Baltimore, Little Rock, Denver, and Springfield, Illinois. For the last 25 years with the FBI he was the Senior Resident Agent in Casper, Wyoming. Retired for 20 years, he enjoys what he calls "F & E" living, (Free and Easy). For the last five years he has been living in Flagstaff, Arizona, "in good health for a man 75 years old." Taken from Splasher Six -- fall 1993.
Combat sorties of Lt. Charlie Gunter, Jr. 0-699160 for the year 1944
1. Leipzig Apr 12
2. Augsburg Apr 13
3. Berlin Apr 18
4. Lippstadt Apr 19
5. Sarreguemines May 1
6. Berlin May 7
7. Berlin May 8
8. Ahies/Laon May 9
9. Osnabruck May 13
10. Troyes May 23
11. Osnabruck May 31
12. Coast of France Jun 6
13. Nantes Jun 7
14. Le Culot Jun 14
15. Wilster Jun 15
16. Ecluse Jun 19
17. Fallersleben Jun 20
18. Munich Jul 12
19. South of France Jul 14
20. Auxerre Jul 17
21. Le Fere Aug 2
22. Northern France Aug 7
23. Politz Aug 29
24. Mainz Sep 1
25. Ruhland Sep 11
26. Ludwigshaven Sep 25
27. Kassel Oct 2
28. Berlin Oct 6
29. Ludwigshaven Nov 5
30 Kaiserlautern Dec 25.
Aug. 8, 1994
I am enclosing for you the following documents
which reveal the sum of my 4½ years of military service.
1. Honorable discharge as enlisted man, AUS, to
accept commission as 2nd Lt. AUS, SN 13070347,as enlisted
man, 0-6991602 as officer, Navigator. Note was at this time
was rated aerial gunner with wings received at Tyndall
2. Record of combat sorties for year 1944 during which
time I served with the 100th Bomb GP, 350 Squadron, 8th AF. 30
missions completed and returned to U. S.
3. Letter of recommendation from Harry H. Crosby, Group
Navigator, furnished to me at time of departure from ETO. Our
base was Thorpe Abbots. Paragraphs 1, 2, & 3 set forth details of
my duties during this period.
4. Order, Far East AF Headquarters, Tokyo, Japan noting
award of an aFmy Commendation Ribbon for service with G-2,
Far East Headquarters, 1946- 1947.
5. Certificate of Service, AUS, Dec. 1943 to March
1947. Record of service on reverse.
6. Honorable Discharge as Major, USAFR, 26 9ept.
This is a complete record of my military service, en
For personal information, the crew of John S.JILES, Jr. was
formed at Ardmore Air Force Base, Ardmore, Okla. You have the narnes of all
the crew in your other record.
We flew to Grand Island, Nebraska where we picked up a
new B-17G bomber. After calibrating the instruments and checking
all equipment, we flew to Prestwick, Scotland via New Hampshire,
Goose Bay, Labrador, Meeks Field, Iceland, to Prestwick, Scotland.
In England we spent two weeks at Bovingdon AFB, in southern England for
in theater training, including for me, training in the use of the GEE
We were then assigned to the 100th BG at Thorpe Abbotts.
When we arrived there, due to a shortage of
Navigators, I was assigned to the crew of Delbert E. Pearson, Pilot
for four missions (Leipzig, Augsburg, Berlin, and Lippstadt. We
flew it an old B-17F, No. 413, named Hard Luck.
Later, with Giles crew, we were assigned a B-17G,
which the crew named LEADING LADY.
As you can see by Harry Crosby's letter, we became a lead
crew, and I was promoted to Squadron Navigator, later Command
After I returned to the States, I was assigned to
Monroe, La. Navigation Training School until the war was over.
I was then assigned to G-2, Far East Headquarters,
serving in the Phillippines for two months, and then the rest of my
service in Tokyo. Japan.
For comedy, I was called REVEREND by my crew, and
this was painted on the front of my leather flightjacket.
I think all of this information is tne gist of my
recall, and should complete your records for the most part.
If you need anything else, let me know and I'll see
what I can do.
Charlie E. Gunter, Jr.
EMAIL = KaWest@centurytel.net
UNAME = Ken Westerman
DIED = Charles E Gunter, Jr
DEATH_DATE = 14 June 2002
UNIT = 350th
COMMENTS = Charles E Gunter, Jr. Retired Major and Navigator, 8th Air Force Abbott. With the 100th BG. 350th Bomb Sqd. Age 84. Under the crew of John S. Giles, Jr. Charlie was a great admirer of both Harry Crosby and Rosie Rosenthal. Charlie, retired with the US FBI about 8 years ago. His still had his A2 jacket and all the book and information regarding the 100th BG Place of interment, Mt Home, AR, His pet aircraft were, "Hard Luck" - Fletchers Castoria and Leading Lady."Thank you. KenW
2nd Lt John M.Shelly P POW 11/9/44 RUHLAND (WITH J. GILES CREW)
2nd Lt Albert Skaar CP CPT 25/7/44 ST LO, GROUND SUPPORT
2nd Lt Michael W Spiller NAV CPT 25/7/44 ST LO, GROUND SUPPORT
2nd Lt Edward A.Fayette BOM SWA 17/7/44 AUXERRE
S/Sgt Edward D.Lowther TTE POW 29/7/44 MERSEBURG (Wlth crew of G.H.Steussy) TAPS: 1982
S/Sgt Gilbert R.Trunkett ROG CPT 24/7/44 ST LO, GROUND SUPPORT TAPS: 1 FEB 1955
Sgt Victor H.Harikian BTG CPT 25/7/44 ST LO, GROUND SUPPORT
Sgt Joseph P.O'Donnell WG POW 29/7/44 MERSEBURG (With crew of W.T.Fitzroy) see memo below
Sgt Ralph H.Bates TG CPT 17/7/44 AUXERRE
Sgt Gordon Winkler WG CPT 24/7/44 ST LO, GROUND SUPPORT
350th Sqdn. Crew,as above,joined the 100th Group on 9/3/44 Shelly flying as CP for J.S.Giles,Jr. on 11/9/44. Lt Sterling "Pete" Lambert (from Lt Giles Crew) took over as 1st pilot on this Crew after June 20, 1944.