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MACR

MACR PILOT: 1Lt Glen S. Van Noy O-728773

MACR #: 00682

Fiche #: 00225

Organization

Location: AAF Station #139

Group: 100th Bomb Gp (H) AAF

Squadron: 349th BS

Command: VIII AF

Detachment:

Detail

Departure/Base: AAF Station #139

Initial Course: Regansburg

Intended Destination: North Africa

Mission Type: Operational

Weather

Weather: CAVU

Give

Date: August 17, 1943

Time: 10:00

Location: Near Brenner Pass

Specify: Last Sighted

Confirmed or believed reason for loss

Loss due to: Enemy aircraft

Other reason for loss:

Aircraft

Serial: 42-30042

Type: B-17

Series: F

Engines

Model: R-1820-97

A: 43-58681

B: 41-42083

C: 42-81303

D: 43-55939

Weapons

A: 458252

B: 458110

C: 458426

D: 458297

E: 492630

F: 458219

G: 458294

H: 458440

I: 458394

J: 458124

L: 488298

Persons are listed as

Casualty Type: Battle casualty

Number of persons on board

Crew: 10

Pass: 0

Total: 10

Personnel

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PositionNameRankSerial
P1
P2Glen S. Van Noy1LtO-728773
CPJames B. Evans2LtO-797980
NAV (N)Kenneth G. Allen1LtO-728153
BOM (B)William H. Couch2LtO-731363
RADJames D. GibsonSSgt37196371
ENGWilliam R. StewartTSgt35257322
BALJoe F. HruskocySSgt35358965
WG (W)William L. KennedyColO-17936
WG (W)William W. CrabbTSgt16008676
TG (T)Samuel J. CusmanoSSgt36156708

Persons who are believed to have last knowledge of aircraft

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NameKnowledgeRankSerial
Owen D. RoaneLast sightedF/OT-120216
John R. JusticeLast sighted2LtO-735390

Personnel who are believed to have survived

Reason: Unknown

Other:

Eyewitness description of crash

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Last NameFirst nameReport
An eyewitness (either Owen D. Roane or John R Justice) gave following report: B-17 #042 was seen to be in trouble a few minutes before target No 4 engine was flaming, but it continued in formation, dropped its bombs on the target and did not pull away until it reached the Alps near Munich At this place #2 engine was feathered and A/C pulled away and disappeared around the side of a mountain. It was flying at about 10,000 feet when last seen and was being pursued by a JU 88 No chutes were seen.
.According to Bill Crabb they lost one engine (fighter attack) just after crossing enemy Coast early in mission and a second at the target. Realized they probably could not reach Africa but at no time did they consider Switzerland Ran out of Ammo although he had 1100 rounds for one gun and 900 for the other (ball turret because he fit better that Hruskocy, the regular BTG man) Bill Couch had size 13 shoes or bigger. Was in stocking feet when picked up and Germans said they had no shoes in Italy big enough for him Of Col Kennedy, Crabb Says," He was due to return stateside to help train aerial gunners And was along for 1st hand experience " "He kept squeezing off one round at a time and I remember thinking, My God! a short burst is one thing but this is ridiculous." Had one bomb hang up over target and tried to release it over a small Airfield near Brenner pass but it wouldn't go. Later released it manually over Mediterranean. Dropped to 500 ft and threw out everything not nailed down "even my GI shoes" Just north of Naples turned for Sicily because at briefing had been told Sicily would fall that day It did. About 90 miles from Sicily lost a third engine Van Noy shut down remaining engine and made the most beautiful landing he ever made. "He never could land an Airplane except when it really counted." Ship floated about an hour and a half. Picked up next morning by Germans in a flying boat. Cusmano reported: Got out 2 five man dinghies and a smaller one -lots of rations, radio, etc. Raised radio mast with balloon and sent S O S Only mission on which 42-30042 reached target was this one It had had 7/8 Abortions . Original ship (42-30002) was named "Damn IF I Know" and was having PFF installed. Was in POW Camp 17B Krems, Austria with many other 100th Gp men. George P Gineikis went down on 5 Nov.1943 - mission to Gelsenkirchen and it is believed he was an evadee. Cusmano later visited him in Vets Hosp. in Battle Creek Later heard he had been discharged with a disability pension.

Description of search effort

Detail: No search made.

Preparing Officer

Prepared by: CLAUDE L. HOSFORD 1st Lt Air Corps Personnel Officer

Date prepared: September 5, 1943