Robert P. KRAMER
Additional 100th Service Notes
Media Articles
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| Media Item | Type | Page | Volume/Issue | Broadcast Source | Time | Description | File |
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| Robert P. Kramer training | 12:00 am | ||||||
| Robert P. Kramer training at Lockbourne | 12:00 am | ||||||
| Robert P. Kramer graduates | 12:00 am | ||||||
| Robert Kramer MIA | Times Union 1943 | 12:00 am | |||||
| Robert Kramer Lost Since Oct 10 | Democrat and Chronicle Oct 27 1943 | 12:00 am |
Comments and Notes
CREW
2nd Lt Robert P.Kramer P KIA 10/10/43 THIS WAS THE FAMOUS MUNSTER MISSION OF 10 0CT 1943
2nd Lt Edward F.Connelly,Jr. CP P0W 10/10/43 MUNSTER TAPS: 24 JAN 1981
2nd Lt Hugh S.Geiger, Jr. NAV POW 10/10/43 MUNSTER
2nd Lt Thomas B.Casey,Jr. BOM POW 10/10/43 MUNSTER
T/Sgt Dean O.Todd TTE POW 10/10/43 MUNSTER
T/Sgt James A.Watkins ROG POW 10/10/43 MUNSTER A/C #42 3433 "LEONA"
S/Sgt Donald M.Glaze BTG KIA 10/10/43 MUNSTER MACR #1024,Micro fiche 339
S/Sgt George A.White RWG KIA 10/10/43 MUNSTER
S/Sgt Fred B.Moore LWG POW 10/10/43 MUNSTER TAPS: 10 MAY 1983
S/Sgt Harvey F.James TG POW 10/10/43 MUNSTER
350th Sqdn. This the 3rd mission for this crew, having flown the first one 4 Oct 43.(Hanau)
Oct 4, 1943 to Hanau
Oct. 8, 1943 to Bremen
Oct 10, 1943 Munster (shot down)
SEE: "MUNSTER: The Way It Was" by Ian Hawkins p.133,134,363,352
Reply from Geiger Oct.1990: Plane named "Leona" after wife of R.P.Kramer.
From statememts in the MACR file it would appear three men were killed were unable to bail out
prior to the ship entering a spin and finally exploding. Gieger (Lt Hugh E. Gieger, Jr.) said he personally
examined the dogtags and they had the appearance of being burned. Kramer (Lt Robert P. Kramer) was at
the nose exit ready to jump, when he turned back for one last verification all crew members had bailed out. This
gallant action cost the popular Bob Kramer his life.
German reports pinpoint the crash site and time as 1515 hours 10 Oct 1943 "at Lambeck near
Wulfen, 100 meters north of Schloss Lembeck." Interment was on 14 Oct 1943 at Catholic cemetary, Lambeck
in Row #1 graves 10, 11 and 12.
Re: 350/100 "Leona"
Posted by Patrick White Mpwhite@aol.com on 3/28/2003,
in reply to "Re: 350/100 "Leona""
Mr. Faley, Thank you for your helpful reply. S/Sgt. White was my first cousin. No information about his death was known to my family until now. I'll look for a photo of the Lena crew. I have one of "Ready Betty". Any interest? Regards and God bless. Patrick White
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Dear Patrick,
You must be a relative of S/Sgt White? This crew was on their third mission, having flown Oct 4, 1943 to Hanau and Oct. 8, 1943 to Bremen. On October 10, 1943 the Kramer Crew participated in one of the most savage air battles of the War, MUNSTER. The 100th BG lost 12 B-17's that day, Lt Kramers Crew being one of those planes. Your relative along with Lt Kramer and Sgt Glaze (BTG) did not make it out of the aircraft before it went into a spin and exploded. I know that Lt Kramer stayed in the plane to make sure his Crew had all bailed out. My feeling is that Sgt White was trying to get Sgt Glaze out of the Ball Turret and all three of them ran out of time. This Crew arrived at Thorpe Abbotts in Late September 1943 and was assigned to the 350th Bomb Squadron. The missions from Oct 8-14, 1943 became know at BLACK WEEK in the 8th Air Force because of all the losses sustained over Bremen, Munster and Schweinfurt…(MPF 2003)
POW/KIA notes: Was at nose exit ready to jump, turned back to verify all where out of A/C then A/C exploded.
KIA / MIA / EVA / INT Information:
Munster
"Leona" (43-3433)
1943-10-10
FLAK & Explosion
Burial Information:
C
28
10
Netherlands Cemetery/Margraten
Photos

Robert P. Kramer crew
Robert P. Kramer crew: As Captioned Correct Name Comment Standing: T/Sgt Dean Todd (TTE), T/Sgt Adams Replaced by T/Sgt Todd at TTE, Todd is not in the picture S/Sgt George White (RWG), Correct Right Waist S/Sgt Harvey James (TG), Correct TG S/Sgt Fred Moore (LWG), Correct Left Waist Lt. Thomas Casey (BOM) Correct Kneeling: Lt. Edward Connelly (CP), Lt. Robert Kramer Lt. Connelly not in picture Lt. Hugh Geiger (NAV), Correct Lt. Robert Kramer (P) James A. Watkins ROG Also, note that Donald M Glaze was not in the picture (confirming your naming.) Thus, the captioning should read as follows (suggested only) Standing: T/Sgt Adams (replaced by T/Sgt Dean O. Todd at TTE (not pictured)), S/Sgt George White (RWG), S/Sgt Harvey James (TG), Lt. Thomas Casey (BOM) Kneeling: Lt. Robert Kramer (P), Lt. Hugh Geiger (NAV), James A. Watkins (ROG)

Robert P. Kramer 350th P
Robert P. Kramer 350th P New York KIA 10 Oct 43 Munster Robert P. Kramer Crew (100th Photo Archives)
Crew List
1st Crew List
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| Rank | Name | Pos | Status |
|---|---|---|---|
| Lt | KRAMER, Robert P. | P | KIA |
| Lt | CONNELLY, Edward | CP | POW |
| Lt | GEIGER, Hugh S. | NAV | POW |
| Lt | CASEY, Thomas B. | BOM | POW |
| T/SGT | TODD, Dean O. | TTE | POW |
| T/Sgt | WATKINS, James A. | ROG | POW |
| S/Sgt | GLAZE, Donald M. | BTG | KIA |
| S/Sgt | MOORE, Fred B. | WG | POW |
| S/Sgt | WHITE, George | WG | KIA |
| S/Sgt | JAMES, Harvey F. | TG | POW |




