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MACR

MACR PILOT: 2Lt Robert P. Kramer O-798524

MACR #: 01024

Fiche #: 00339

Organization

Location: AAF Station #139

Group: 100th Bomb Gp (H) AAF

Squadron: 350th BS

Command: VIII AF

Detachment:

Detail

Departure/Base: AAF Station #139

Initial Course: E

Intended Destination: Munster

Mission Type: Operational

Weather

Weather: Clear with ground haze

Give

Date: October 10, 1943

Time: 15:00

Location: Munster, Germany (Time 1500 - 1530)

Specify: Information not available

Confirmed or believed reason for loss

Loss due to: Other circumstances

Other reason for loss: Unknown

Aircraft

Serial: 42-3433

Type: B-17

Series: F

Engines

Model: R-1820-97

A: 43-6732

B: 43-6756

C: 43-6758

D: 43-6765

Weapons

A: 394194

B: 395595

C: 473415

D: 395499

E: 395561

F: 398549

G: 398665

H: 907034

I: 908232

J: 908067

L: 393892

Persons are listed as

Casualty Type: Battle casualty

Number of persons on board

Crew: 10

Pass: 0

Total: 10

Personnel

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PositionNameRankSerial
P1
P2Robert P. Kramer2LtO-798524
CPEdward F. Connelly2LtO-681959
NAV (N)Hugh S. Geiger2LtO-747124
BOM (B)Thomas B. Casey2LtO-678519
RADJames A. WatkinsTSgt15330820
ENGDeane O. ToddTSgt13001989
BALDonald M. GlazeSSgt35355964
WG (W)George A. WhiteSSgt13131254
WG (W)Fred B. MooreSSgt6247654?
TG (T)Harvey F. JamesSSgt32478195

Persons who are believed to have last knowledge of aircraft

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NameKnowledgeRankSerial
None

Personnel who are believed to have survived

Reason: Original MACR field blank

Other:

Eyewitness description of crash

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Last NameFirst nameReport
Circumstances of loss of this A/C are unknown.
No DataFrom statements in the MACR file it would appear three men were killed were unable to bail out prior to the ship entering a spin and finally exploding. Gieger (Lt Hugh E. Gieger) said he personally examined the dog tags and they had the appearance of being burned. Kramer (Lt Robert P. Kramer) was at the nose exit ready to jump, when he turned back for one last verification all crew members had bailed out. This gallant action cost the popular Bob Kramer his life.

Description of search effort

Detail: No search made.

Preparing Officer

Prepared by: CLAUDE L. HOSFORD 1st Lt Air Corps Personnel Officer

Date prepared: October 21, 1943